(Above) Tom Steyer introduces a panel during the National  Clean Energy Summit 6.0 at the Mandalay Bay Convention Center on  August 13, 2013 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Below) Rep. Dana  Rohrabacher of California speaking at CPAC 2011 in Washington,  D.C. Isaac Brekken/Getty Images and Gage Skidmore/Flickr/Creative  Commons  
    On June 1, KPCC produced a live on-air special on President    Trump's decision to withdraw the United States from the Paris    Climate Agreement. We interviewed U.S. Representative Dana    Rohrabacher, R-Orange County, and investor and environmental    philanthropist Tom Steyer about their views on the decision.    Afterwards, we received many comments from listeners who felt    we did not sufficiently challenge their claims. KPCC    environment reporter Emily Guerin and correspondent Matt Bloom    have this fact-check.  
    Rep. Dana RohrabacherI have no doubt    that there are these climate cycles and we go through them and    it's only been until recently that the politicians have tried    to claim that we have to control people's behavior in order to    control those climate cycles. And so I disagree with the    theory that CO2, done by mankind, is a major cause for climate    change.  
      KPCCNinety-seven percent of scientists      are in agreement that human activities are responsible for      global warming trends over the past 100 years. Most of the      leading scientific organizations in the world have made      public statements in support of this consensus, including the      American Association for the Advancement of Science, the      American Geophysical Union and the National Academy of      Sciences.    
    Rohrabacher I think the CEOs [Tesla CEO Elon    Musk and Disney CEO Bob Igner, who both condemned the    President's decision], they don't have to worry about the    unemployment the Paris agreement would cause.  
      The notion that the       Paris climate agreement will cause anything is      misleading, because the agreement is voluntary. Each country      pledges to cut its emissions by a certain amount by a certain      year. Every five years, each country reviews where its at      and explains why it has or has not hit its targets. But the      targets are not legally enforceable.       Vox has a great explainer on this topic.    
    RohrabacherThe people of the Paris    accord were insisting on things like the ending of frequent    flyer miles, because they see the airplanes just the worst    violators.  
      KPCC cannot find any evidence that the Paris accord      mentions ending frequent flyer miles.    
    Rohrabacher We've had the most incredible, for    the last 30 years, how do you say, political campaign to set a    mindset in people's consciousness that some way every time    there's some problem with the climate and you see a cycle going    through, that that in some way has to do with human behavior,    and thus there's an excuse to control human behavior. But I    know a lot of people have looked into it who have come to this    conclusion, and I certainly have, that there is a small    impact of the manmade CO2 on the climate.  
      According to the       Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the body of      international scientists that regularly scrutinizes climate      research, Human influence on the climate system is clear,      and recent anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are      the highest in history. Recent climate changes have had      widespread impacts on human and natural systems.    
    RohrabacherAl Gore said global    warming was going to dramatically increase the sea level.    And of course that never happened.  
      According to the IPCC, sea level rose seven inches between      1901 and 2010. Not only is the sea level rising, but its      rising faster than at any time over the past two thousand      years.       And the rate is only expected to increase in the      future.    
    Tom SteyerI think the president is    attempting to make a winner out of the fossil fuel industry    when it's in decline.  
      KPCCSteyer lumps all fossil fuels      together here, but its a bit more complicated than that.      Coal production is in decline, in part due to the      lower costs of natural gas generation and growing market      share of wind and solar power, according to the U.S. Energy      Information Administration. Last year, the EIA said natural      gas provided 33 percent of U.S. energy generation while      coals share fell to 32 percent, making 2016 the first year      that natural gas-fired generation exceeded coal generation on      an annual basis.    
      Meantime, EIA says production of both natural gas and      oil in the U.S. is booming. Since 2012, the U.S. has pumped      more oil and gas than any other country in the world.    
    SteyerI think what we've seen in the    marketplace is that renewables plus storage is cheaper than    fossil fuels.  
      When Steyer says "storage," he means the ability to store the      electricity produced by solar or wind generation in massive      batteries so that the energy is available later, when the      wind is no longer blowing or it's cloudy.    
      The REN21 Renewables Global Futures Report from the United      Nations says that renewables are now the least expensive      option for new power generation in almost all countries.      Butthe limitations of existing infrastructure are      abarrier to further expansion.    
    Steyer It's unrealistic to think that the    federal government doesn't have a role to play in our economy.    For one thing, they fund an awful lot of research.  
      A lot of federal research and development grants jump start      businesses here in Southern California. For example, the      Department of Energys Advance      Research Projects Agency-Energy, also known as ARPA-E,      gave $2 million to Marine BioEnergy Inc. in La Caada to      develop a system for turning kelp into fuel. Other federally      funded programs include $1 million for UCLAs effort to build      a better battery for electric vehicles. The Trump      administration has signaled that it wants to eliminate ARPA-E      funding next year.    
    SteyerBut the fact of the matter is    number one, you have to acknowledge the problem (climate    change) before you talk about solving it. And number two, we    believe that solving it will create better jobs, better paying    jobs, and will help the health of Americans. So we not only    solve a huge threat to America but we make ourselves better off    and healthier.  
      A 2017 report from the U.S. Department of Energy found that      California was home to 40 percent of the country's solar      energy jobs, a number that could rise as the state moves      toward ambitious renewable energy goals. Since 2004,      greenhouse gas emissions in California declined over nine      percent while the state's GDP grew 28 percent, according to      the       California Air Resources Board.    
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